Wednesday, November 28, 2007

Circle Eight: "The Fraudulent"

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

When the sinner is bitten, he bursts into flames, only to painfully be made back to be tortured again.


No matter what you did your always going to be tortured for it over & over again.

Anonymous said...

"As new sinners of this type arrive, they are cast into a hole, while the soul that previously occupied it, falls away into the hole and disappear."

So what happens to the previous soul that occupied it? When it says 'disappear', Do they really just disappear? Where do they go?

Anonymous said...

According to the University of Austin Texas, "Rhetoric, according to a classical tradition familiar to Dante, is essential for civilized life when used wisely. However, eloquence without wisdom--far worse even than wisdom without eloquence--is an evil that can 'corrupt cities and undermine the lives of men'"

so, those who pretend to be eloquent end up in the eighth circle of hell? Just faking lands you in a worse part of hell than the liars and murderers?

Anonymous said...

"Bolgia 2 is literally the sewer of Hell. The Flatterers are here sunk in a 'river of excrement.'"


So the flatterers get the awesome honor of swimming in poop. But I always thought to flatter someone was seen as a good thing, kind of like getting compliments. I don't really understand Bolgia 2.

Anonymous said...

"And whatever violence you see done to me, you have no cause to fear. I know these matters: I have been through this once and come back safely."

I am not sure that I know what Virgil means by this. He has already been in this part of hell? Was he a fraud? If so, how did he escape?

Anonymous said...

"And whatever violence you see done to me, you have no cause to fear. I know these matters: I have been through this once and come back safely"

This is basically saying that he has been through hell already so why should he be scared

Anonymous said...

Elizabeth, I thought of it as virgil may have done this type of thing before. Maybe he has toured many people through Hell.

Anonymous said...

"In Bolgia 4 are the Fortune Tellers and Diviners. They attempted to see into the future by forbidden means. Therefore, they must forever walk backwards while their heads are turned around on their bodies--they forever look behind them as they try to walk in a forward manner. But, added to their torment, their eyes are so full of tears they cannot even see."

Why would their bodies be all twisted up if they can't even see because of their eyes being too watery to even see?

What's the point of it? Is it suppose to symbolize something?

Anonymous said...

Bolgia 2 is literally the sewer of Hell. The Flatterers are here sunk in a 'river of excrement.'

I think tis is extremely fitting and unflatternig to say the least. Since these people relied on flattery and good looks to do their evil wills, but not i think flattery is the least of their worries and it wont get them anywhere here.

Anonymous said...

Racheal commented, "So the flatterers get the awesome honor of swimming in poop. But I always thought to flatter someone was seen as a good thing, kind of like getting compliments. I don't really understand Bolgia 2."

I think that maybe this passage means the people who flattered without reason. Like, people who say things that they don't really mean.

Anonymous said...

racheal said...
"So the flatterers get the awesome honor of swimming in poop. But I always thought to flatter someone was seen as a good thing, kind of like getting compliments. I don't really understand Bolgia 2."

The reason Dante considers flattery as a sin is because flatterers usually flatter to get what they want. For example... "Miss Morrison, your hair looks great today. Can we take our quiz tomorrow instead?"

Anonymous said...

And the False Witnesses are falsifiers of words.

So does this mean like the fasle prophets in the Bible?
Would that also mean that people that are the creators of other religions would be here?

Anonymous said...

"Here begins the Sins of the Leopard. Home of the Fraudulent, the Malebolgia, or the 'ditches,' holds many types of sinners of simple and compound fraud.

I dont understand why they would put compound and simple fraud together instead of placing them in diffrent rings.

Anonymous said...

They are symbols of emotion out of control, like love without restraint. They are the monsters that could well up inside of ourselves if our emotions no longer guide us, but control us.

i don't understand what it means by the giants welling up inside of us and taking control. is it saying that our emotions grow out of hand and control us?

Anonymous said...

I think it is appropriate for the levels to be called ditches. Dithes signify death, and therefore the sinners can only be tortured repeatedly, which is the closest to death that they will ever come to.

Anonymous said...

"In Bolgia 4 are the Fortune Tellers and Diviners. They attempted to see into the future by forbidden means."

Who knew fortune telling is a sin...

-Jared Mukina

Anonymous said...

Amanda said..
No matter what you did your always going to be tortured for it over & over again.

I think that this is the really depressing part of Hell. It's not that you just get tortured, it's that it never ends and you have to go though the pain over and over and over again.

Anonymous said...

Elizabeth said...
"And whatever violence you see done to me, you have no cause to fear. I know these matters: I have been through this once and come back safely."

I am not sure that I know what Virgil means by this. He has already been in this part of hell? Was he a fraud? If so, how did he escape?

Carrie said...
Elizabeth, I thought of it as virgil may have done this type of thing before. Maybe he has toured many people through Hell.

alicia said...
Bolgia 2 is literally the sewer of Hell. The Flatterers are here sunk in a 'river of excrement.'

I think tis is extremely fitting and unflatternig to say the least. Since these people relied on flattery and good looks to do their evil wills, but not i think flattery is the least of their worries and it wont get them anywhere here.

alicia said...
Amanda said..
No matter what you did your always going to be tortured for it over & over again.

I think that this is the really depressing part of Hell. It's not that you just get tortured, it's that it never ends and you have to go though the pain over and over and over again.

Noelle said...
Racheal commented, "So the flatterers get the awesome honor of swimming in poop. But I always thought to flatter someone was seen as a good thing, kind of like getting compliments. I don't really understand Bolgia 2."

I think that maybe this passage means the people who flattered without reason. Like, people who say things that they don't really mean.

Anonymous said...

carrie said...
"As new sinners of this type arrive, they are cast into a hole, while the soul that previously occupied it, falls away into the hole and disappear."

So what happens to the previous soul that occupied it? When it says 'disappear', Do they really just disappear? Where do they go?

According to Ms. Morrison and no other possible way to interpret what it means, we say they literally disappear.

elizabeth said...
"And whatever violence you see done to me, you have no cause to fear. I know these matters: I have been through this once and come back safely."

I am not sure that I know what Virgil means by this. He has already been in this part of hell? Was he a fraud? If so, how did he escape?

Well, from some other answers, we agree that he may have toured other people or may have been like Dante and escaped. If he did escape we do not know how.

Anonymous said...

Bonnie & Clyde
Well, they're more modern.

Anonymous said...

carrie, you said :

So what happens to the previous soul that occupied it? When it says 'disappear', Do they really just disappear? Where do they go?

I don't really think they disapear , i think they go into a new hole or somewhere else and the new soul that is going see's what happens to them.

Anonymous said...

When the sinner is bitten, he bursts into flames, only to painfully be made back to be tortured again.

how long were they on fire?

Anonymous said...

to what carrie said...

So what happens to the previous soul that occupied it? When it says 'disappear', Do they really just disappear? Where do they go?

... wouldnt they reappear to have it happen agian?

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